My roomate has a ANCIENT old Toshiba laptop. Its a 486 w/ 4MB RAM and a 210MB hard drive. Currenmtly its running 3.11 but he wants 95 on it. He is low on funds at this time, so cannot afford to purchase anything for it. I do have a Win95 install CD but have not yet found a way to create install floppy disks from the CD. I remember certain software suites of this vintage including a option to create floppy batch sets from the master CD to install on machines that lack a CD-ROM drive.

Installing Win95 on ANCIENT 486 DOS. Have not yet found a way to create install floppy disks from. That will load Windows 95 on such a old machine if.

I told him that he would have to live with 3.11. For many years this os worked fine for people and should still work today. I told him there are still many many HP 200LX DOS palmtop users using DOS 5.x and are happy. There is no reason why he should be unhapy with 3.11. I told him it would be cheaper to purchase a PC laptop like my Compaq Armada 1700 on ebay (PII 266, 192MB RAM, 4GB HD) than to fiddle with such a old machine. And I have seen my Compaq selling for less than $100 on ebay. I bought it for $550 used in 2002, and remember selling it for over $1000 back at OfficeMax in 1999.

Does anyone have any tips? Remember my roomates budget when you answer. Some people cannot control themselves and their instant gratification issues.

If he does not like my advice, he may seek someone that will load Windows 95 on such a old machine if its possible. Once I consulted a client that installed 95 on a 386 with 4MB's of RAM! It took more than a half hour to load 95 after each startup, but she was happy. I suggested that she return back to 3.11 or use DOS, but she did not like this advice.

So I thought it was better not to work for this client again. Thank you John -- John 1:6-9 There came a man who was sent from God; his name was John. He came as a witness to testify concerning that light, so that through him all men might believe. He himself was not the light; he came only as a witness to the light. CERM-Church Education Resource Ministries ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==---- The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =. First things first, you really need 8 megabytes of memory.

You may be able to load it in 4MB, but it will be pathetic. [In fact, more than 8 would be better, but 8 is liveable. Also, you really should replace the laptop hard drive with a 500MB hard drive.

I understand your friend's budget constraints, but you can find 500MB drives on E-Bay for $1. In fact, you can find 720 and 810MB drives for that or a buck or two more. There is no demand for drives under one gig, and they are basically free for the shipping cost (note that the laptop might not be able to take a drive larger than 500MB -- or, then again, it might). It can be done, but I would not even attempt to do it by making floppies. Probably the best and easiest way, all things considered, is to find a parallel port Zip 100MB drive (the original zip drive).

These are very common, and you might be able to borrow one if you don't have one. Install this on a more modern machine with a CD-ROM drive and copy the Win95 folder from the CD to the Zip drive (it will just fit, if you use the original version of Win95). Then install the zip drive on the laptop. There are other ways to do this, but all things considered, this is the easiest way (unless you have a parallel port CD-ROM drive). One final point: You can find Toshiba 400-series laptops on E-Bay for $10 (it may take some patience but you can do it). A 420, 425, 430 or 435CDT would be INFINITELY better than any 486, and these computers have a drive bay that takes swappable CD and floppy drives (and the floppy can be used externally with the CD).

Sometimes you can even find 440/445's for $20, and those have Pentium MMX CPUs with USB ports and Cardbus support. Unless your roommate has some unexplained affection for this laptop, when you can get a whole new laptop for $10-$20 that has bigger better screen and CPU, CD drive, Sound, possibly even USB ports (and it will come with more memory), working on a 486 -- any 486 -- really doesn't make much sense.

John the Baptist Jr. Wrote: >My roomate has a ANCIENT old Toshiba laptop. Its a 486 w/ 4MB RAM and >a 210MB hard drive. Currenmtly its running 3.11 but he wants 95 on it.

>He is low on funds at this time, so cannot afford to purchase >anything for it. I do have a Win95 install CD but have not yet found >a way to create install floppy disks from the CD.

I remember certain >software suites of this vintage including a option to create floppy >batch sets from the master CD to install on machines that lack a >CD-ROM drive. >>I told him that he would have to live with 3.11. For many years this >os worked fine for people and should still work today. I told him >there are still many many HP 200LX DOS palmtop users using DOS 5.x and >are happy. There is no reason why he should be unhapy with 3.11. I >told him it would be cheaper to purchase a PC laptop like my Compaq >Armada 1700 on ebay (PII 266, 192MB RAM, 4GB HD) than to fiddle with >such a old machine.

And I have seen my Compaq selling for less than >$100 on ebay. I bought it for $550 used in 2002, and remember selling >it for over $1000 back at OfficeMax in 1999.

>>Does anyone have any tips? Remember my roomates budget when you answer. >>Some people cannot control themselves and their instant gratification >issues. If he does not like my advice, he may seek someone that will >load Windows 95 on such a old machine if its possible. >>Once I consulted a client that installed 95 on a 386 with 4MB's of RAM! >It took more than a half hour to load 95 after each startup, but she was >happy. I suggested that she return back to 3.11 or use DOS, but she did >not like this advice.

So I thought it was better not to work for this >client again. >>>Thank you >>>John.

Thank you Barry. I think Robert would be better off saving up for a laptop like mine than to fiddle with that dinasaur. My PC laptop runs 98 just fine, and can access the web and do all that I need.

Those that still use the HP 200LX are using a Palmtop PC (not a laptop) that fits in the pocket, runs on AA batteries and runs only DOS apps. These people are not running 95 on these machines or even 3.11, even with a CF card! But it does amaze me that people have tried running Windows on that HP 200LX which really only is a 7mhz 186.

Or if Robert cant afford $100 perhaps he can buy a laptop like my first one, which had 133mhz and 32MB RAM. It ran 95 great. It lacked USB, but hey it worked! I only replaced it because it broke. If not I would still be using it. Win95 is all I need really with a PC as I am a Mac guy.

John In article, Barry Watzman wrote: >First things first, you really need 8 megabytes of memory. You may be >able to load it in 4MB, but it will be pathetic. [In fact, more than 8 >would be better, but 8 is liveable.

>>Also, you really should replace the laptop hard drive with a 500MB hard >drive. I understand your friend's budget constraints, but you can find >500MB drives on E-Bay for $1. In fact, you can find 720 and >810MB drives for that or a buck or two more.

There is no demand for >drives under one gig, and they are basically free for the shipping cost >(note that the laptop might not be able to take a drive larger than >500MB -- or, then again, it might). >>It can be done, but I would not even attempt to do it by making >floppies. Probably the best and easiest way, all things considered, is >to find a parallel port Zip 100MB drive (the original zip drive). These >are very common, and you might be able to borrow one if you don't have >one. Install this on a more modern machine with a CD-ROM drive and copy >the Win95 folder from the CD to the Zip drive (it will just fit, if you >use the original version of Win95). Then install the zip drive on the >laptop.

>>There are other ways to do this, but all things considered, this is the >easiest way (unless you have a parallel port CD-ROM drive). >>One final point: You can find Toshiba 400-series laptops on E-Bay for >$10 (it may take some patience but you can do it). A 420, 425, 430 or >435CDT would be INFINITELY better than any 486, and these computers have >a drive bay that takes swappable CD and floppy drives (and the floppy >can be used externally with the CD). Sometimes you can even find >440/445's for $20, and those have Pentium MMX CPUs with USB ports and >Cardbus support. Unless your roommate has some unexplained affection >for this laptop, when you can get a whole new laptop for $10-$20 that >has bigger better screen and CPU, CD drive, Sound, possibly even USB >ports (and it will come with more memory), working on a 486 -- any 486 >-- really doesn't make much sense.

>>>>John the Baptist Jr. Wrote: >>>My roomate has a ANCIENT old Toshiba laptop. Its a 486 w/ 4MB RAM and >>a 210MB hard drive. Currenmtly its running 3.11 but he wants 95 on it. >>He is low on funds at this time, so cannot afford to purchase >>anything for it. I do have a Win95 install CD but have not yet found >>a way to create install floppy disks from the CD.

I remember certain >>software suites of this vintage including a option to create floppy >>batch sets from the master CD to install on machines that lack a >>CD-ROM drive. >>>>I told him that he would have to live with 3.11. For many years this >>os worked fine for people and should still work today. I told him >>there are still many many HP 200LX DOS palmtop users using DOS 5.x and >>are happy. There is no reason why he should be unhapy with 3.11. I >>told him it would be cheaper to purchase a PC laptop like my Compaq >>Armada 1700 on ebay (PII 266, 192MB RAM, 4GB HD) than to fiddle with >>such a old machine.

And I have seen my Compaq selling for less than >>$100 on ebay. I bought it for $550 used in 2002, and remember selling >>it for over $1000 back at OfficeMax in 1999. >>>>Does anyone have any tips? Remember my roomates budget when you answer.

>>>>Some people cannot control themselves and their instant gratification >>issues. If he does not like my advice, he may seek someone that will >>load Windows 95 on such a old machine if its possible.

>>>>Once I consulted a client that installed 95 on a 386 with 4MB's of RAM! >>It took more than a half hour to load 95 after each startup, but she was >>happy. I suggested that she return back to 3.11 or use DOS, but she did >>not like this advice. So I thought it was better not to work for this >>client again. >>>>>>Thank you >>>>>>John -- John 1:6-9 There came a man who was sent from God; his name was John.

He came as a witness to testify concerning that light, so that through him all men might believe. He himself was not the light; he came only as a witness to the light. CERM-Church Education Resource Ministries ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==---- The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =. On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 04:00:17 GMT, Barry Watzman wrote: >First things first, you really need 8 megabytes of memory. You may be >able to load it in 4MB, but it will be pathetic. [In fact, more than 8 >would be better, but 8 is liveable.

I always considered that for Win95, you wanted 16 meg as a minimum. 8 is only barely liveable, IMO. >Also, you really should replace the laptop hard drive with a 500MB hard >drive. I understand your friend's budget constraints, but you can find >500MB drives on E-Bay for $1. In fact, you can find 720 and >810MB drives for that or a buck or two more. There is no demand for >drives under one gig, and they are basically free for the shipping cost >(note that the laptop might not be able to take a drive larger than >500MB -- or, then again, it might). -- ArarghMail601 at [drop the 'from ->] BCET Basic Compiler Page: To reply by email, remove the garbage from the reply address.

In article, ararghmail601NOSPAM@NOW.AT.arargh.com wrote: >I always considered that for Win95, you wanted 16 meg as a minimum. >8 is only barely liveable, IMO.

My P133 that I bought for $800 in 1998 had 16MB and that worked well. John -- John 1:6-9 There came a man who was sent from God; his name was John. He came as a witness to testify concerning that light, so that through him all men might believe. He himself was not the light; he came only as a witness to the light.

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I still have an old Toshiba 4600T (80486 DX33) that has 4MB of onboard RAM and I think it originally had a 200MB hard drive and floppy. I originally had a 4MB add-on memory card which took it to 8MB RAM, but later purchased a 16MB RAM card taking it up to 20MB and also a 850MB hard drive. I purchased an external PCMCIA card hosted CD-ROM drive and installed from there in the normal way. The machine works OK with Windows 95 and Office 6, but obviously it isn't particularly fast. In fact when using Word it can take 6 or 7 characters to be typed before they appear on screen:-) It is barely usable with only 8MB, better with 12MB and significantly better with 20MB. I have successfully installed Windows 95 from floppies years ago, but it does take a very long time. I have also carried out a Windows 95 installation using a parallel cable to copy the install files onto the local hard disk using an old DOS based version of Laplink to complete the transfer.

Again, it's very very slow, but do-able nevertheless. Basically you would at least need to format the hard drive and create a folder called Win95 and you would need to transfer everything piece by piece - possibly using floppies to the laptop. Alternatively, remove the hard drive from the laptop and using a 3.5' to 2.5' IDE drive converter, connect it up to a desktop PC as a slave and copy the files across that way before placing the drive back in the laptop. I wouldn't really entertain running 95 on a machine with less than 8MB, so I think at least 4MB of extra RAM will need to be sourced - I may even have a memory card of this size that might fit somewhere which he could have *if* I could find it easily. The existing 210MB hard drive is painfully small obviously, and will just about hold Windows, the swap file and maybe Office, but not much more, so ideally if a 500MB or 850MB drive (which I put in mine) could be found somewhere it would be better. Good luck - see it as a challenge:-) Best regards Nick.

On Mon, 23 Jan 2006 23:12:46 -0600, ararghmail601NOSPAM@NOW.AT.arargh.com wrote: >I always considered that for Win95, you wanted 16 meg as a minimum. >8 is only barely liveable, IMO. No, the original W95 ran quite well on 8 MB as long as you don't load it down with a lot of junk. I had a 486 laptop with 8 MB Ram and even though it took a couple of minutes to start up, it was not that bad once it was running. Sometimes people just plain like to fiddle with old stuff! The original specification for W95 was a 386 w 4 MB Ram.

Not much of a gaming machine, but it should work. Lars Stockholm.

On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 10:19:39 -0600, jakdedert wrote: >>And how is he going to make W95 support that USB? >>>WIN98SE--which will probably be installed on the machine anyway--will >run it, with very little more RAM requirement (also probably already >installed). The OP's question was not for W98, or 'very little more ram'. For some of those old machines it is a just about impossible to find more Ram. Guys hanging in this group probably have several computers already, and don't think it is a big deal buying another one.

But there are loads of people in this world who have only one computer and will not buy another one as long as the old is breathing at all. Lars Stockholm. John the Baptist Jr. >My roomate has a ANCIENT old Toshiba laptop. Its a 486 w/ 4MB RAM and >a 210MB hard drive. Currenmtly its running 3.11 but he wants 95 on it.

>He is low on funds at this time, so cannot afford to purchase >anything for it. I do have a Win95 install CD but have not yet found >a way to create install floppy disks from the CD. I remember certain >software suites of this vintage including a option to create floppy >batch sets from the master CD to install on machines that lack a >CD-ROM drive. Performance would be very poor, but you know that. Windows 95 would take up about half the harddisk excluding the swap file (virtual memory). Not use how much your friend would be able to do even doing it very slowly.

As for installation media, Windows 95 came on floppies as well as CDs. I have a floppy package, but I'm still using it on an old 486 PS/2 (16MB RAM and 500MB drive). Even in this configuration, it's rather slow (but not excruciatingly so). Since Wndows 95 was available on floppies, I doubt Microsoft provided any means to produce installation floppies from the product CD. Kinda begging for piracy if they did.

So I doubt you'd find any means of installing from a CD without using a CD drive. Having said this, here's a barely relevant anecdote. My wife has a 4 year old PC with 64MB RAM that originally had Windows ME installed.

She'd added a lot of junk to it (not least AOL), and it crashed all the time. On he own she bought a Windows XP Pro Upgrade pack and installed it. Her PC doesn't crash as often as it did, but it's performance in terms of speed is MUCH, MUCH WORSE. Windows 95 is hardly crash-resistant, so I believe your friend should expect more, not less, frequent crashes and much slower performance under Windows 95 without at least adding memory and disk space. Not a good idea, but sometimes people need to learn from horrible experiences. On Mon, 23 Jan 2006 19:12:13 -0800, John the Baptist Jr.

Wrote: If you haven't got a CD or Zip drive available, do you have a PC Card NIC that you could use. If so, copy the win95 dir onto the PC, and install from that. If you don't have a NIC available. Then use PCZIP to zip up the win95 dir across multiple disks, then unzip onto the laptop and install. Don't listen to the doomsayers who suggest you should have 8mb minimum. My first win95 install was onto a 486 with 4mb ram and a 250mb hdd. On Mon, 23 Jan 2006 23:29:48 -0800, 'John the Baptist Jr.'

Wrote: >In article, >ararghmail601NOSPAM@NOW.AT.arargh.com wrote: >>>I always considered that for Win95, you wanted 16 meg as a minimum. >>8 is only barely liveable, IMO.

>>My P133 that I bought for $800 in 1998 had 16MB and that worked well. A P133 would be a bit slow for my taste, but usuable. IIRC, 95 wanted more memory up to a point, and then needed more cpu. -- ArarghMail601 at [drop the 'from ->] BCET Basic Compiler Page: To reply by email, remove the garbage from the reply address. On Mon, 23 Jan 2006 19:12:13 -0800, 'John the Baptist Jr.' Wrote: >My roomate has a ANCIENT old Toshiba laptop. Its a 486 w/ 4MB RAM and >a 210MB hard drive.

Currenmtly its running 3.11 but he wants 95 on it. >He is low on funds at this time, so cannot afford to purchase >anything for it. I do have a Win95 install CD but have not yet found >a way to create install floppy disks from the CD. I remember certain >software suites of this vintage including a option to create floppy >batch sets from the master CD to install on machines that lack a >CD-ROM drive. >>I told him that he would have to live with 3.11.

For many years this >os worked fine for people and should still work today. I told him >there are still many many HP 200LX DOS palmtop users using DOS 5.x and >are happy. There is no reason why he should be unhapy with 3.11.

I >told him it would be cheaper to purchase a PC laptop like my Compaq >Armada 1700 on ebay (PII 266, 192MB RAM, 4GB HD) than to fiddle with >such a old machine. And I have seen my Compaq selling for less than >$100 on ebay. I bought it for $550 used in 2002, and remember selling >it for over $1000 back at OfficeMax in 1999. >>Does anyone have any tips? Remember my roomates budget when you answer. You might can use DCC between the computer's parallel ports to get the cd contents into the laptop.

Do a google search for DCC and you will find many 'how to' sites. >Some people cannot control themselves and their instant gratification >issues. If he does not like my advice, he may seek someone that will >load Windows 95 on such a old machine if its possible. >>Once I consulted a client that installed 95 on a 386 with 4MB's of RAM! >It took more than a half hour to load 95 after each startup, but she was >happy. I suggested that she return back to 3.11 or use DOS, but she did >not like this advice.

So I thought it was better not to work for this >client again. >>>Thank you >>>John >-- >John 1:6-9 There came a man who was sent from God; >his name was John. He came as a witness to testify >concerning that light, so that through him all men >might believe. He himself was not the light; he came >only as a witness to the light. >CERM-Church Education Resource Ministries >>>----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==---- >The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups >----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =.

Bootdisk.com has all of the old school boot disks online. John the Baptist Jr. Wrote: >My roomate has a ANCIENT old Toshiba laptop. Its a 486 w/ 4MB RAM and >a 210MB hard drive.

Currenmtly its running 3.11 but he wants 95 on it. >He is low on funds at this time, so cannot afford to purchase >anything for it. I do have a Win95 install CD but have not yet found >a way to create install floppy disks from the CD. I remember certain >software suites of this vintage including a option to create floppy >batch sets from the master CD to install on machines that lack a >CD-ROM drive. >>I told him that he would have to live with 3.11.

For many years this >os worked fine for people and should still work today. I told him >there are still many many HP 200LX DOS palmtop users using DOS 5.x and >are happy. There is no reason why he should be unhapy with 3.11. I >told him it would be cheaper to purchase a PC laptop like my Compaq >Armada 1700 on ebay (PII 266, 192MB RAM, 4GB HD) than to fiddle with >such a old machine. And I have seen my Compaq selling for less than >$100 on ebay. I bought it for $550 used in 2002, and remember selling >it for over $1000 back at OfficeMax in 1999. >>Does anyone have any tips?

Remember my roomates budget when you answer. >>Some people cannot control themselves and their instant gratification >issues. If he does not like my advice, he may seek someone that will >load Windows 95 on such a old machine if its possible. >>Once I consulted a client that installed 95 on a 386 with 4MB's of RAM! >It took more than a half hour to load 95 after each startup, but she was >happy. I suggested that she return back to 3.11 or use DOS, but she did >not like this advice.

So I thought it was better not to work for this >client again. >>>Thank you >>>John >-- >John 1:6-9 There came a man who was sent from God; >his name was John. He came as a witness to testify >concerning that light, so that through him all men >might believe. He himself was not the light; he came >only as a witness to the light.

>CERM-Church Education Resource Ministries >>>----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==---- >The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups >----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =. I have an IBM 560Z laptop which has no built-in CD and whose USB port I just can't make work.

It has W98SE on it at the moment, but it's pretty well useless if I can't get data in and out. I was wondering if I could install a Linux distro on it from my XP laptop - maybe via a serial connection? Is it possible?

If so, does it need a special (null?) cable? I want to try this to see if Linux can make the USB port work - W98 'sees' it but won't recognise data on devices (pen drive, floppy) attached to it. Sorry to appear dim, but it's the first machine I've owned without a CD drive, so I'm a bit lost. Thanks for any advice or suggestions. DAH wrote: >I have an IBM 560Z laptop which has no built-in CD and whose USB port >I just can't make work.

It has W98SE on it at the moment, but it's >pretty well useless if I can't get data in and out. >I was wondering if I could install a Linux distro on it from my XP >laptop - maybe via a serial connection?

Is it possible? If so, does it >need a special (null?) cable? >I want to try this to see if Linux can make the USB port work - W98 >'sees' it but won't recognise data on devices (pen drive, floppy) >attached to it. >Sorry to appear dim, but it's the first machine I've owned without a >CD drive, so I'm a bit lost. >Thanks for any advice or suggestions. There are a bunch of issues here.

Greetings, I have a toshiba laptop that has a travelstar 40 gb drive with win xp on it that I want to install into a dell 600m that now has a 10 gb travelstar drive in. My toshiba broke so I want to put that drive into my 600m that is running windows 2000. I thought I could just switch them out but when I put the 40 gb into the dell it doesn't recognize there being a drive in it. Do I need to flash the bios or something so it will recognize that drive. Or reformat it with the dell operating system.

I've never done this before and I really would like to learn how to make the switch. Hi Everyone I need some help with a question please? Me and a couple of mates have Wireless Laptops and wanna set up a LAN. Is it possible to do this without going thru a router, kinda like running a 'Virtual Router' or something on one laptop and the others connect into it? If it helps we wanna play Civ 3 Conquests Multiplayer, I am pretty sure it either uses TCP/IP. I have set up normal cable networks before at home and have done a quick Google on it to no avail!

I have ordered a Netger WGT634UK for the home ready, but this is just if we are at work and wanna have a quick go. What is the best software (cable) etc to copy the contents of one laptop to another laptop?? I think it use to be 'laplink' very expensive avenue!!! Or Bobs copier! Is there a cheaper way to do it. Will laplink actually copy contents of an older laptop such as Toshiba Satelite 20CDT to a newer laptops such as a P4 Notepad with a 20gig HDD in it???? Joe ********************************************************** * Ham KH6JF AARS/MARS ABM6JF QCWA WW2 VET WD RADIO SYSTEM* * Army MARS PRECEDED by AARS (Army Amateur Radio System) * * Hi State ARMY MARS COORDINATOR * ********************************************************** Joseph Fenn writes: >What is the best software (cable) etc to copy the contents of one >laptop to another laptop??

I think it use to be 'laplink' very >expensive avenue!!! Or Bobs copier!

Is there a cheaper way >to do it. Will laplink actually copy contents of an older laptop >such as Toshiba Satelite 20CDT to a newer laptops such as >a P4 Notepad with a 20gig HDD in it????

Skin Winamp Keren 3d Pen. Normally these days you'd use ethernet for something like that. Copying that much data through a serial port would take forever.

On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 10:12:55 -1000, Joseph Fenn wrote: >What is the best software (cable) etc to copy the contents of one >laptop to another laptop?? I think it use to be 'laplink' very >expensive avenue!!! My new Toshiba L35 has vents at various places all over the bottom, so I'm reluctant to just put it on my lap. Is there something that everybody uses as a base that's a little more uptown than the piece of plywood I'm using now? Peabody wrote: >My new Toshiba L35 has vents at various places all over the bottom, >so I'm reluctant to just put it on my lap. Is there something that >everybody uses as a base that's a little more uptown than the piece >of plywood I'm using now?

Something like this? -- Notan Notan wrote: >Peabody wrote: >>My new Toshiba L35 has vents at various places all over the bottom, so >>I'm reluctant to just put it on my lap. Is there something that >>everybody uses as a base that's a little more uptown than the piece of >>plywood I'm using now?

>>Something like this? >>Here's another: -- Notan Notan wrote: >Notan wrote: >>Peabody wrote: >>>My new Toshiba L35 has vents at various places all over the bottom, >>>so I'm reluctant to just put it on my lap.

Is there something that >>>everybody uses as a base that's a little more uptown than the piece >>>of plywood I'm using now? >>>>Something like this?

Hi Everyone I need some help with a question please? Me and a couple of mates have Wireless Laptops and wanna set up a LAN. Is it possible to do this without going thru a router, kinda like running a 'Virtual Router' or something on one laptop and the others connect into it? If it helps we wanna play Civ 3 Conquests Multiplayer, I am pretty sure it either uses TCP/IP. I have set up normal cable networks before at home and have done a quick Google on it to no avail!

I have ordered a Netger WGT634UK for the home ready, but this is just if we are at work and wanna have a quick go. My roommate has decided to dig his old 386 laptop PC out of the garage running Windows 3.11, and put it to work. He thinks that he can connect this PC to his old ATX 286 PC running pure dos, and also to his Windows XP PC. Has he lost his marbles or is there a way? His laptop and ATX both lack a network card.

But I was thinking that a NULL modem serial connection would work. He wants to connect it to his modern PC to transfer files back and forth,etc. I did at one time have a network PCMCIA card that would have worked on a 3.11 PC, but this was sold months ago. And no network card I have today will work on anything pre 95. So how could we accomplish this feat? His laptop has a modem card, but there are no phone lines in this house, since everyone uses cell phones and wifi. So connecting to the net would be impossible from this machine.

Thanks, John -- CERM-Church Education Resource Ministries John 14:6 Jesus answered, �I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. AIM-Crucifyself03 Bible John wrote: >My roommate has decided to dig his old 386 laptop PC out of the garage >running Windows 3.11, and put it to work. He thinks that he can >connect this PC to his old ATX 286 PC running pure dos, and also to >his Windows XP PC. Has he lost his marbles or is there a way? >>His laptop and ATX both lack a network card.

But I was thinking that >a NULL m. Actually running it from a floppy (thanks to anonymous guy) this is pretty much what i was looking for; couple of general CP/M questions: 1. Would User 0 be considered user 'root' as in Unix? How would you add another user? What kind of security did CP/M (or even M/PM) have in place in a multi user enviorment? *ProteanThread* wrote: [.] >1. Would User 0 be considered user 'root' as in Unix?

How would you >add another user? If I've understood what you're using correctly, then CP/M users aren't actually users in the Unix or Windows sense. A couple of weeks ago, someone asked what the best laptop would be for installing and using FreeBSD. Someone replied with a website that listed other people's experiences with various laptops and associated hardware. Like a fool, I just clicked oin the link and didn't actually save the address anywhere. Now I can't find that website address and I really need it. Does anyone remember what I'm talking about and if they have that address, could they please post it again?

Charlie Smith Charlie Smith wrote: >A couple of weeks ago, someone asked what the best laptop would be >for installing and using FreeBSD. >>Someone replied with a website that listed other people's experiences >with various laptops and associated hardware. -- Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota * USA Always dig through this: there's always which has some BSD laptop info. Mainly, since the the ndis and if_ndis modules are out. A lot of wireless cards are supported.

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I suppose even a 386 would do. I'm hoping someone in this group might have an old machine that still works that they'd be willing to ship to me. I had two old Toshibas but they both died within months of each other. And I got another Toshiba from FreeCycle.com last week, but it reeks so strongly of cigarette smoke that I had to put it out on my deck where it's still sitting today. I get sick these days from exposure to cigarette smoke, car exhaust, perfume, etc. Even the residue of of cigarette smoke makes me sick nowadays.

I'm told that newer laptops have trouble running old DOS software because the newer laptops have too much memory or something like that. I much prefer working with my old DOS text editor, and need a laptop because I'm disabled by a circulation disorder that makes it very difficult for me to sit up in a chair for more than a few minutes at a time. So I need to be able to work lying down in bed, with my back propped up on pillows. All my software and text files are on floppies so I have no need of a CD drive. All I need is a floppy drive. I only want to run DOS 6.22 and DOSSHELL (from DOS 5.0 I think). And a few DOS programs like a text editor, and a file manager.

I *don't* want to run Windows on it. My old Toshibas had a feature that allowed me to turn them off, but they kept all the running software active and the files opened even when it was turned off. So that when I turned it on again, I found myself right where I. Hi Everyone I need some help with a question please? Me and a couple of mates have Wireless Laptops and wanna set up a LAN. Is it possible to do this without going thru a router, kinda like running a 'Virtual Router' or something on one laptop and the others connect into it? If it helps we wanna play Civ 3 Conquests Multiplayer, I am pretty sure it either uses TCP/IP.

I have set up normal cable networks before at home and have done a quick Google on it to no avail! I have ordered a Netger WGT634UK for the home ready, but this is just if we are at work and wanna have a quick go.

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'Come Get Hooked Up!' Hi Everyone I need some help with a question please? Me and a couple of mates have Wireless Laptops and wanna set up a LAN. Is it possible to do this without going thru a router, kinda like running a 'Virtual Router' or something on one laptop and the others connect into it? If it helps we wanna play Civ 3 Conquests Multiplayer, I am pretty sure it either uses TCP/IP. I have set up normal cable networks before at home and have done a quick Google on it to no avail! I have ordered a Netger WGT634UK for the home ready, but this is just if we are at work and wanna have a quick go.

I've got an NEC 486 with 8MB RAM. Floppy Drive and a 170 MB HD. Wow what a pile.

Anyways, I'm pretty familar with Distributions like Debian and RedHat, but I'm not sure that either of those will install on such little RAM. I don't want to put any money into it besides maybe a NIC or something. Now what I want to do with this is (hopefully it's possible): Install some sort of Linux that supports a WiFi card or NIC.

Access the internet, via ssh only. Be able to read floppies. I thought for a while that maybe an FDLinux-like distro would be ideal, but I've never really used it so I wouldn't know. So basically, how can I get Linux on this thing, and would a wifi card work with it anyway?

(its PCMCIA 2.0 i believe) Thanks in advance! Mike (mlehman0@gmail.com) writes: >I've got an NEC 486 with 8MB RAM. Floppy Drive and a 170 MB HD. Wow >what a pile. >>Anyways, I'm pretty familar with Distributions like Debian and RedHat, >but I'm not sure that either of those will install on such little RAM.

>I don't want to put any money into it besides maybe a NIC or something. >>Well 8megs and that amount of hard drive space used to be fine for Linux. I first put Slackware 7.0 on a 486 with 10megs (I couldn't install with 8megs (this was early 2001), but if I knew then what I know now, I'm sure I could have gotten around the problem; indeed after the fact I m. Sometimes I take train with my spouse. I have a Linux laptop and a Sierra 597E 'wireless broadband' card. This card works great with Linux, its maker Sierra contributes to the Linux kernel, and I basically have a well working internet while on train. The question concerns the second laptop -- my wife's.

What I would like is to connect it to my laptop via Ethernet, and have her laptop use my laptop as a 'gateway'. My question is, can I directly connect them.

I think that some pairs in Ethernet cable are somehow twisted, making a direct connection from computer to co. I have come into an ancient 486 laptop. Looking at the box itself, it's not clear what the model is, but I think that I have more or less established that it is an AMS Travelpro 5300, which one online source says is the same as 'Austin 486' laptop. (Apparently these were both OEMed from the same Taiwan source). The floppy is busted, but I had a spare laptop HD with FreeBSD on it, so I slipped that in and it booted OK.

However, the PCMCIA slot is not recognized. I've googled a bit and have found a couple of notes indicating that there was some strangeness with the chip settings, but haven't found a solution. Does anyone know what settings to use to build a FreeBSD 4 kernel which will recognize the PCMCIA on this dinosaur? I'm a little surprised it didn't work out of the box, as I have an NCR/AT&T 386 laptop where the PCMCIA works like a champ. I am considering an LG laptop (W1pro) and have read in their website they have an 'ER' keyboard with enhanced tactile sensation. Anyone has any experience with this? How would you rate LG laptop keyboards against other laptop keyboards?

Any personal experience with this brand of laptops? Thank you in advance. I'm looking for a decent uk supplier of a laptop bag, one that looks like a back pack. Regular bags have 'steal me!' Written all over it. I'm also looking for an optical mouse, they are slightly smaller and some have retractable leads some are wireless some are bluetooth. Advice please.

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-- Piet van Oostrum URL: [PGP 8DAE142BE17999C4] Private email: piet@vanoostrum.org. Hellow, I use matlab for intense data processing, large amounts of data, for example it can take me up to 1hr the smallest data set I process. My desktop is a Pentium4,1Gb PC3200. I'm shopping for a laptop what laptops do you guys recommend. I am personally insterested in Lenovo. Hi, i have a problem to install SuSE 7.2 on my old Toshiba Laptop (CT1950 486/DX40, 800 MB HDD, 20 MB RAM, 10 M/Bit NIC, without CD-ROM). The boot prozess stopped with the floppydisk images on the setup-CD.

I am readed in the SuSE Support database that many old laptops have problems with the compact images from the newer versions. In the SuSE 5.3 version is contained an image for Thinkpad laptops. This image works great and i can install via ftp. But this is the last version where such an image was contained. I want create a disk with loadlin.exe 1.6c to provide and take a kernel from the disk image of the SuSE 7.2 CD. After that start comes the message: VFS: Insert root floppy and press ENTER what here does it want to have? Have you any idea to install SuSE 7.2 on this laptop?

Best regards Carsten Burk. I have a RPC.

Could the same 'works' or something similar be installed in a laptop configuration. Just so I can take 'it' with me on hols. I don't want VRPC. -- D On Thu, 11 Sep 2008 17:51:24 +0100 Dave wrote: >I have a RPC. Could the same 'works' or something similar be >installed in a laptop configuration. Just so I can take 'it' with me >on hols. I don't want VRPC.

Just find somebody willing to sell your 20 laptop cases for each of the RISC OS people left who'd buy a native lap. Hello dear friends and computer lovers, can someone tell me how to remove the password that is stored at the bios from the 'ibm thinkpad t22'?? Manny greetings for your trouble to help me;-) On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 15:50:05 +0100, 'news.wxs.nl' wrote: >hello dear friends and computer lovers, >can someone tell me how to remove the password that is stored at the bios >from the 'ibm thinkpad t22'?? >manny greetings for your trouble to help me;-) >Try here. They have a lot of information. Some may be applicable to your.

Microsoft Windows Boot Disk 95 RTM These disks are original boot floppy disk media for use with Microsoft Windows CD-ROMs. Not all Windows 9x/ME CDs are bootable, not all CDs included boot disks, and DOS will not see a CD-ROM drive unless a driver is loaded. OEMs were expected to provide compatible CD-ROM with the boot media provided with their systems. However towards the very late 90s, most vendors standardized on IDE/ATAPI CD-ROM hardware and the use of the OEM Adaption Kit (OAK) driver. If your CD drive is not IDE compatible (such as an MKE or Panasonic interface) you must manually add your own driver.

Note: you can use the Windows 98 boot disk with Windows 95 to make things easier. If you have any UNTOUCHED OEM boot disks with different drivers, please submit them.